Friday, November 13, 2009

Should we fight the online pedophile community?

To what extent should we hunt (online) and inform on self confessed pedophiles?





If some one posts on a blog





"I am a pedophile but I dont abuse children"





should we give them the benefit of the doubt? This guys arguement is that he is a "pedosexual" he is attracted to children (boys in particular) and that there is nothing wrong with that.





Its when you cross the line (he says) that you commit an actual crime your in the wrong.





Im not trying to sound like the thought police here, but I dont feel comfortable knowing people are in my community that profess to being sexually attracted to children and see that as being OK.





I have challeneged this individual to an open debate in a public arena, such as a FOX/CNN/BBC discussion board.





But what else can we do? Should we (as citizens) take pre-emptive steps to protect our children, or let the guy be free to roam and get aroused by our children?

Should we fight the online pedophile community?
#1. People shouldn't be shot for what they think but for what they do. But even if somone is not actively doing it themselves, they may be promoting atrocities by others.


#2 For someone to come out and say they are a non-practicing pedophile means what?


#3 These guys have an agenda. Child-lovers want their practice to be accepted, so they have learned from the homosexuals how to use the media to promote their ideas. I think they believe if they just keep saying long and loud in the media that their actions are okay and should be acceptable, that people will accept them.


#4 How is pedophila not abuse? Consentual sex can sometimes be damaging (i.e. between teenagers).


#5 There is more to life than sex and the sex drive. Can't we learn to define ourselves based on something more? You know, sometimes I have the influence to kill someone because I am so angry or because of what they have done to me. But I nerver have and never would. Most of us control our bad impulses and are not ruled by them.


#6 We must realize that some have been falsely accused of child sex abuse. So we must be careful to judge too soon, without enough facts.





#7 Having said all that, yes, practicing pedophiles should all be shot or killed in a horrific manner.
Reply:NO! We must make the first move. They only have one illegal move, and once they make it, it is too late. Even though he claims not to abuse children, the fact that this guy doesn't think anything is wrong shows that he's not stable. And a unstable pedophile can attack at anytime. This guy needs help. Good lookin out. If more people were like you we wouldn't have had so many child murders in the last 3 years
Reply:Its absoulutly discusting! Dont people have values or morals? Ah! My parents questions my every move online because of freaks! Did you watch the Tyra Banks Show? If you didnt I would Highly recomend watching this one episode about pedophiles!
Reply:Sounds like he is hunting for other like-minded folks to share pix/stories with.... OR s/he is law enforcement hoping to ensnare pedophiles looking for pix/stories, etc.





I think it never hurts to share your info.
Reply:Well if he keeps it totally to himself then I guess he is just a potential pedophile. If he is attempting to contact children in any way or in a profession which places him in close contact with them and has professed those desires then action must be taken to protect them.
Reply:Pedophiles are scum, but it's got nothing to do with gay people. Why did you choose to post the question in the gay section?
Reply:This is an immensely hard question that continues to plague us and I find difficult but rewarding to discuss. Here are my thoughts on the matter:





1) I hate when people use the excuse that their behavior is due to a disease. First off, pedophilia may very well be a disease, but acting upon your wrong desires is different than merely having them. If it isn't a disease, then these people need to be locked away, because it's something they've done and could do again. If it is a disease that cannot be controlled, they need to be locked away, because it's something they've done and could do again. It's not a punishment thing for me, it's about prevention. I hear people say that you are never cured of pedophilia, which is all the more reason to not keep them around general society.





2) Pedophilia is a valid sexual orientation, in my view. Just like all sexuality, I believe that it is not genetic, but not a 'choice'- your desires do not come from DNA, but they are innate and unconscious. And no sexuality is inherently wrong . . . it's what you do with it that is wrong. Being attracted to children is not wrong, although it makes most people sick (me included). It is having sex with children that is without a doubt morally wrong. The line is simple, but it's the legitimate worry about someone crossing the line that gets everyone in a tizzy.





3) You have to do something wrong to be guilty. Working off my statement that pedophilia as an attraction, not an act, is morally neutral, then the act must be committed in order for the person to have done wrong. Therefore, I am strongly against pre-emption, for pre-emption presumes guilt, rather than the code we try to live by of 'innocent until proven guilty'. If you work off the idea that all pedophilia- attraction or the act- is wrong, then of course, the person will be instantaneously guilty if the person's desires are revealed. But in my mind, only when someone has abused a child are they guilty, and thereafter, they should be locked away as a preventative measure.





I think we need to determine the words 'self-confessed pedophile'- does that mean confessing to the attraction or to having committed the act? If it's the former, we should certainly not hunt them down (online). If it's the latter, by all means, go ahead.





In some ways, I think the Internet is the worst thing and the best thing for pedophiles. On the bad hand, it increases trade in child pornography, encourages pedophiles to act on their desires, and generally gives rise to more of them. But on the other hand, it can be a positive place where individuals can get together to (hopefully) speak rationally about their desires and handling them without acting on them- this would be a good place, for example, writing erotic stories that get the trick done, instant messaging one another taking turns pretending to be young children (rather than sexually soliciting our youth), and sharing the perfectly legal computer-generated pornography that creates the illusion of children engaging in sexual acts. In this way, rather than tamping down the feelings to the point of their moving into action, they are freely expressed and relieved.





I know that it's not nice to think about, but I try to approach it with a calm, rational manner that will protect our children without vilifying those who have, as of yet, done no wrong.
Reply:First off, you're posting this in the LGBT catagory can only be taken that you somehow believe that pedophiles are in anyway associated with homosexuals and vice versa. You couldn't have it more wrong if you tried.


Most pedophiles are straight males, usually people of authority or those who are related to their victims.


Pedophilia has little to nothing to do with adult sexuality at all. Pedophiles don't even take into consideration the gender of their victims. They usually go after what is available to them.


Any adult who suggests that sexual relationships between adults and minors are normal is in need of counseling.





Minors are unable to make emotionally mature descissions, this is why we have laws to protect our children. (Yeah, I said "OUR" children....don't forget gays and lesbians have children too!)


Any adult who claims to be sexually attracted to legal minors are endangering ALL OUR CHILDREN!





No Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual or Transgendered organization has EVER backed, associated with or aided NAMBLA (The North American Man/Boy Love AssociationThe North American Man/Boy Love Association) EVER.





No Pride Parade associations allow NAMBLA to march along with other ADULT gays/lesbians.





These are people who are attempting to justify endangerment through misuse of the word "love" and it's consequences.
Reply:There is something wrong with that...they're children.
Reply:This is the incorrect section for your question, it should be in the law section or something.
Reply:We should take such steps as we are allowed. If anyone posts an offensive remark, then report it.


Rose P.
Reply:I'm not really sure about this. Like...maybe if they keep going "grr, that thinking's wrong" then they're just going to suppress it until it comes to a critical mass, and then they'll end up acting on it. Or, maybe the thoughts lead to action no matter what. I'd honestly ask experts before I formed an opinion on the matter. I definitely don't think anything can / should be done if someone says they have the thoughts: the most you can really do is WATCH these people.
Reply:Its a computer, keep your children off of it until they are old enough to understand online predators. You know a computer is alot safer between a child and a pedophile than your back fence.





If you have children at home and you haven't checked your states sex offender list, you had better. You'd be surprised at who lives in your neighborhood.
Reply:Pedophiles should be opposed and informed upon to the proper authorities. A relationship between consenting adults is one thing; an adult believing that preying on children sexually is both natural and acceptable is an abomination.


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